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BMW Rolls Out Hybrid X5 with Twin-Turbo Diesel

Wired.com -- They've given it the unfortunate name of Vision EfficientDynamics Concept, but what this diesel-electric hybrid X5 lacks in the nomenclature department, it makes up for in smart thinking. BMW calls it a "Mild ActiveHybrid," which means it's similar in concept to the gasoline-electric systems in large SUVs and pickups from General Motors and the Honda Civic Hybrid.

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Submitted Feb 24, 2008 By: JT

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chris537 Sophomore Author Cincinnati Posts:162 Points:53,535 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2008 8:13:23 AM Ignore chris537 Report Abuse it cost more than my house
sluggopyle Champion Author North Carolina Posts:12,986 Points:913,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 26, 2008 12:40:52 AM Ignore sluggopyle Report Abuse If 36 mpg is supposed to be 'good', I have to wonder --exactly how big IS this thing? It must be hueueueuge to settle for that kind of mileage in a Diesel hybrid. Just shows that European makers -even Germans- are not immune to mimicking stupid ideas. Lop off all that extra flab and get real. 36 mpg. Sheesh.
Duke69 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:4,630 Points:1,252,595 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 7:31:58 PM Ignore Duke69 Report Abuse Sweet
skymm Champion Author Knoxville Posts:1,788 Points:422,590 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:23:46 AM Ignore skymm Report Abuse do BMW owners really need to save money on gas?
UncleBub Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,832 Points:492,570 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:10:47 AM Ignore UncleBub Report Abuse They don't buy they lease!
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,452 Points:857,630 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:08:37 AM Ignore mplato Report Abuse what do you mean if you can afford it....look at all the people driving the expensive cars that cant afford them now.
TwoEyes Champion Author New Haven Posts:1,683 Points:1,571,235 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:08:19 AM Ignore TwoEyes Report Abuse As suspected, it was only a matter of time until SUVs joined the bandwagon.
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:5,966 Points:1,098,420 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:08:01 AM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse A step in the right direction, but the soccer Moms' love affair with the big SUV combined with all the crew cab pickups (especially 4x4 and even moreso the dualies) that never EVER see dirt have led us to think that the supply is inexhaustable and the subsidized price we have paid for years for gasoline is how it should be... We are now in a world market, and we ALL need more efficient vehicles, and new alternative RENEWABLE fuels
rogerparry Champion Author Florida Posts:3,708 Points:760,480 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:07:47 AM Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse Out of my price range
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,015 Points:1,317,695 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:07:07 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse If one can afford the car, fuel cost shouldn't be a problem and if so, the car was a pipe dream.
jonboy08 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,493 Points:79,615 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:04:19 AM Ignore jonboy08 Report Abuse I guess if you can afford a BMW X5 you should not worry about fuel economy.
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,983 Points:1,479,740 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:04:04 AM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse If I could afford the car I wouldn't care about the fuel.
drenske Veteran Author St. Louis Posts:495 Points:226,135 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:02:53 AM Ignore drenske Report Abuse Nice, but not affordable.
WillyG Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,911 Points:569,765 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:01:13 AM Ignore WillyG Report Abuse Sounds awesome, but I'll bet it won't make it to the US. You notice how it only gives the specs in KM and not in miles. Too bad, cause they really have something special in that: we love our SUVs and it gets a subcompact gas mileage. Bravo !!!
Spitzer Champion Author Charleston Posts:10,344 Points:1,491,670 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:00:59 AM Ignore Spitzer Report Abuse Agreed. Who will be able to afford one?
Tekkie Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,867 Points:423,085 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:00:23 AM Ignore Tekkie Report Abuse OOOPS slightly out of my price range
bluebird1 Champion Author Toronto Posts:9,796 Points:1,966,810 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:00:15 AM Ignore bluebird1 Report Abuse To Mooseman...The intent is not to be more efficient than small cars but to deliver better functionality with less gas use. It's about time that diesel's come on board & also used in hybrids. 36 mpg is good for its size. Could be even better if full hybrid & can add in bio-diesel use for even better affect. Would I buy one - No... more than I need & too expensive.
Expert Rookie Author Pennsylvania Posts:29 Points:326,905 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 10:00:04 AM Ignore Expert Report Abuse Wow, an SUV that gets better mileage than my Saturn SL2. Nice!
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:10,382 Points:2,180,310 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:59:52 AM Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse Yes, and a very high premium price tag!
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:3,030 Points:1,260,280 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:59:42 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse time will tell
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,962 Points:785,780 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:57:27 AM Ignore papou Report Abuse To long a payback period !!
rvnvet70 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,708 Points:1,301,225 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:56:42 AM Ignore rvnvet70 Report Abuse Who will be able to afford one?
flatcoatfun Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,175 Points:377,555 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:55:54 AM Ignore flatcoatfun Report Abuse interesting
QueticoKid Sophomore Author Austin Posts:128 Points:124,685 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:55:25 AM Ignore QueticoKid Report Abuse Baby steps... slight improvement.
Magnum0829 Champion Author Jackson Posts:3,920 Points:944,470 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:54:44 AM Ignore Magnum0829 Report Abuse Hybrid!
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,956 Points:1,391,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:53:54 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse Market forces at work. If customers will buy them, they will be built!
Mooseman1 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:4,602 Points:758,985 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:50:37 AM Ignore Mooseman1 Report Abuse I don't thing the fuel consumption will be less than the Honda Civics or Toyota Corollas, turbos tend to guzzle.
jck667 Sophomore Author Connecticut Posts:210 Points:338,600 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:49:34 AM Ignore jck667 Report Abuse This is good stuff, aside from the stupid-looking wheels. Please BMW, next offer us a car that gets good mileage!!
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:6,838 Points:1,020,190 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:49:12 AM Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse If you can afford a BMW you can ignore fuel efficiency.
cudatim Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,519 Points:672,690 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:48:18 AM Ignore cudatim Report Abuse OK, what's the benefits and what's the cost??
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,572 Points:1,266,180 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:47:56 AM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse I'm sure that another $40,000 hybrid will save the world
CoronaKid Champion Author Riverside Posts:8,709 Points:1,554,750 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:47:29 AM Ignore CoronaKid Report Abuse Great, another way to waste gas.
Lonewolftx Champion Author Houston Posts:7,574 Points:1,501,765 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:46:34 AM Ignore Lonewolftx Report Abuse OK THEN . . .
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BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:9,105 Points:1,299,085 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 9:15:02 AM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse This IS the wave of the future. Diesel hybrids are close to the best bang for the buck. 36 mpg out of an SUV? "Get outta here!"
Matts_Pap Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:3,689 Points:654,915 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:58:34 AM Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse Prestige (for some), a whole lot of money and little extra mileage. What a deal. Hurry before they are all gone.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,508 Points:901,160 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:51:32 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse yes diesel prices are currently higher than gas. Here they are $.66 higher. But if you get twice the milage, the cost per mile is a LOT LESS. I have a diesel pick up truck. I get 24 MPG vs 12 (for gas version)
tags610 Champion Author Lincoln Posts:4,723 Points:978,485 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:51:29 AM Ignore tags610 Report Abuse I'm afraid it will be too rich for my blood.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,508 Points:901,160 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:50:29 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse yes diesel prices are currently higher than gas. Here they are $.66 higher. But if you get twice the milage, the cost per mile is a LOT LESS. I have a diesel pick up truck. I get 24 MPG vs 12 (for gas version)
CharK Sophomore Author Orlando Posts:111 Points:81,220 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:46:36 AM Ignore CharK Report Abuse No mention of cost?
Prius_MN All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:879 Points:509,705 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:45:33 AM Ignore Prius_MN Report Abuse Nice idea, but why a mild hybrid? Go for the dull benefit of the technology. And it seems that while 36 mpg is certainly better than 20, this technology should really be used to push the possibilities. And who needs an SUV anyway?
Helms Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,520 Points:1,065,520 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:45:19 AM Ignore Helms Report Abuse No doubt BMW will likely brag about its 26 MPG too...what a croc!
Jeepney4106 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,909 Points:1,159,810 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:45:01 AM Ignore Jeepney4106 Report Abuse huh?
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gcjordan Rookie Author Detroit Posts:25 Points:773,040 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:31:56 AM Ignore gcjordan Report Abuse Amazing... I'm sitting here reading some of the comments and just shaking my head. Step back and look at the bigger picture for a minute. What does the current X5 get for fuel economy? 15 to 20 mpg? This one is getting almost double that by switching to hybrid technology. 36 mpg not good for a hybrid? Based on what? Your low slung Prius or Civic with the small 4 cylinder engine? Yes I would expect those to get high numbers based on it's size. Take note that we are pushing a brick through the wind at 55 mph not something with low resistance.
us412 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:11,793 Points:1,281,220 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:24:17 AM Ignore us412 Report Abuse "It's amazing the speed of technology that $100 has instigated!" racerdj said. Those making money with the status quo know $100 oil brings change and are afraid they might be left behind. SOoooo the innovation machine gets kicked into high and ,presto changeo, look what we`ve got!
GAWalv Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,873 Points:1,035,955 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:23:00 AM Ignore GAWalv Report Abuse Hybrid concept, great. The gasbuddy site is running slowly this morning.
owatonnajeep Champion Author Minnesota Posts:3,510 Points:709,345 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2008 8:21:58 AM Ignore owatonnajeep Report Abuse wouldn't mind one of those...